DOI: 10.1145/2670917 Dennis Shasha
Proving without Teaching/
Teaching without Proving
return to the room, and ask him how
many grains you have removed. Do this
as many times as you like. If Amazing
passes many such tests, then you know
beyond a reasonable doubt he knows
how many grains are in the bucket (
assuming no X-ray vision), because the
only information he has is that he is able
to look at the bucket. In the meantime,
you still have not learned any more than
you might by simply counting the number of grains you added or removed.
Upstart, or open-problem, variant.
Suppose Amazing says there are N
grains. You do not necessarily believe
him. Your task is to design a protocol
that determines whether he is telling
the truth. That protocol should take
less than O(sqrt(N)) time. Here are the
operations you are allowed (all taking
O( 1) time): counting a single grain; dividing the bucket into approximately
PETER WINKLER’S MATHEMATICALLY
elegant, often whimsical puzzles have
been a joy to read and wrestle with. My
columns now embark on a different
path. Each will come in two parts: one
quite doable, for which I will provide a
solution, the other an “upstart,” or insolent variant, I do not know how to solve
and that will be an open problem for the
community. Here we go.
“Zero knowledge” proofs entail interaction between someone (the Prover) asserting a statement and someone
else (the Verifier) determining whether
it is true. The proofs give zero knowledge to the Verifier, as the Verifier
gains no knowledge other than that
the statement is true, either absolutely
or beyond a reasonable doubt.
statement in question is normally of a
mathematical nature, but, in this case,
it resembles, well, child’s play.
Imagine the charming gentleman
in the figure calls himself the Amazing Sand Counter. He says if he sees a
bucket of sand, he will know how many
grains are in it, though he will not tell
you the number. Your task is to determine whether he is telling the truth beyond a reasonable doubt. Here are the
rules of engagement: You may send him
out of the room, put a tent over yourself
and the bucket, and add or remove a
few grains from/to the bucket. He will
answer any question that will not give
you information about the total number
of grains in the bucket. This is the easy
part. Try solving it before reading on.
Solution. Send him out of the room,
cover yourself with a tent, take a few
grains you count, put them in your
pocket, remove the tent, invite him to
equal portions (the grains may have dif-
ferent shapes and weights so you can
approximate divisions only by two); and
asking a question of Amazing whose
answer may or may not be true. You
have many buckets at your disposal.
You win if, in less than O(sqrt(N)) time,
you determine he is telling the truth or
catch him lying (even once) with prob-
ability at least ½. Otherwise, he wins.
1. Goldwasser, S., Micali, S., and Rackoff, C. The
knowledge complexity of interactive proof systems.
SIAM Journal on Computing 18, 1 (Feb. 1989),
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Dennis Shasha ( email@example.com) is a professor
of computer science in the Computer Science Department
of the Courant Institute of New York University, New York.
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Amazing Sand Counter claims to know the number of grains in the bucket just by looking at
it. Do you believe him?